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Vincent Valentine's Claw by Arienne-Keith Vincent Valentine's Claw by Arienne-Keith
Wheeeeeee :D :D :D


Vincent Valentine's Claw. It's been almost a year in the making. And now I finally have the photos to show it off muahahahahaha

btw, the file is fricken' huge. If you want to see it full-size, hit "download."

Everything was made out of brass sheet. Sawn out. Hand-hammered. Soldered. Sanded. Buffed. Polished. Riveted. Flaunted. XD

It was made to look like Vincent's claw in FF7AC and DOC. Of course, there were real-life physical limitations that resulted in a different look, but I still like the way it came out. Changes that had to be made included:
-expansion of the wrist-end of the armpiece. Vincent's fits him snugly all the way down to the wrist, but such a snug-fitting one would never fit over a person's hand. Therefore, the wrist end was widened so it could be taken on and off. It was either that or hinges, and I refused the hinges for both mechanical and cosmetic reasons -_-
-a band across the palm and rings around the finger bases. In the game and movie, the entire claw seems to sit on a black background/glove, with no visible attachments. It's possible his is supposed to be riveted to the "glove." Or it's possible Squeenix didn't really think about practicality when designing Vincent (I think his shoes are quite indicative of the latter!). Anyway, rather than try to rivet the pieces to a little black evening glove, I made a band across the palm to hold it on and the base of each finger gauntlet is a ring.
-fixed end joints. When the human finger bends, it also shortens. This was causing the finger gauntlets to fall off every time my buyer flexed his fingers. So, I shortened the finger guantlets (so the rings fit about 1/4" away from the base of each of his fingers) and that allowed him to flex the finger normally for the most part. However, the last joint -- the pointy one -- was still falling off. Rather than shorten the finger gauntlets any more, I soldered the two end joints together. This kinda defeats the point of having four finger joints for battle purposes, but this is for cosplaying anyway, so it doesn't matter. This way I was able to keep an apparent four finger joints, for the sake of canoninity :)
-straight spiculums. The taper on the spiculums was too steep to make the claws curve without collapsing the spiculums.

Other details...

Compound curves were used on the "upswing" of the finger joints and the two cuffs (at the elbow and wrist) of the arm piece. I'm not going to divulge the secrets of how these are made. All I'll tell you is that I used wood and two types of hammers. :)
The cone of the arm piece was simply hammered around a large conical forming stake and soldered down the middle, with two large acetylene torches and easy solder.
The hand piece was sawn out and hammered mostly with a ring mandrel.
The fingers were made individually. For one finger gauntlet, four pieces (only three for the thumb though) were sawn out and formed individually, polished, and riveted together on the sides so they could move -- with the exception of the last two joints which were soldered together for the aforementioned mobility purposes.
As for the spiculum forms at the end of each finger gauntlet, I'm not going to tell you how I made that either. However, I will tell you that they were cut out of sheet metal, formed, and soldered, and that they were filed down at the tips to be very very sharp.
All the metal used was brass -- 24 guage for the fingers and 20 guage for the hand and arm pieces. The whole thing is sturdy enough for cosplay purposes but is actually very light-weight.
Weights:
arm piece - 562.3g - 1.24lb - 19.8oz
hand piece - 64.1g - 2.26oz
pinky - 15.8g - 0.557oz
ring - 21.6g - 0.762oz
middle - 26.4g - 0.931oz
index - 21.8g - 0.769oz
thumb - 19.7g - 0.695oz

....And that's all I can think of to say about that right now.




***Update1-28-09***

OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*cries*

I can't believe this got a DD!!! Thanks so much to Phyrbyrd and Kitten-of-Woe!!! *cries again* you just made my year!!!!!!!!



***Update 8-12-2011***

I apologize for not responding more to the comments... I tried to keep up, but after the DD, I just couldn't do it. To make matters worse- when I moved in with my Grandparents on Feb. 2, 2009 (just a few weeks after the DD), I no longer had regular access to the internet. I had to drive several blocks and sit outside in 110-degree southwestern heat to get internet, and my laptop battery lasts about 45 min. at most. If I wanted to sit indoors, I had to drive more like 20 minutes to get there. As a result, I lost touch with deviantart and all my social networks. And e-mail... until I finally got e-mail on my phone a couple months ago. I am still without internet at home, and deviantart tells me that I have 10,666 messages at the time of me posting this. I've sorta been able to keep up with the notes because they are much less common - though there is a significant lag because of my infrequent logins. If you have something to ask me about, please send it to me in a personal note and I will answer as soon as I login. But I am unable to keep up with every comment.

However, I've been skimming some of the comments and think that this post will help answer some of the more common questions.

The claw shown in the picture wasn't paid for by the guy who commissioned it, and I had my then-interest (now husband) model it for me at a con. However, it wasn't designed to fit his hands, and the pinky fell off. We checked lost and found, searched the entire hotel (con area) high and low, checked lost and found again, and never found it. We were very thorough, so I'm pretty sure someone just took it. So, since it probably won't fit anyone besides who it was designed for, and it's missing a piece, it's been discounted to $250 plus shipping (note me if you're interested).

How much for a custom claw? $600 plus shipping costs.

The problem -- and part of the reason I haven't given much attention to my deviantart -- is that since around Dec. 2008/Jan. 2009, I haven't had any access to a proper metalsmithing lab (acetylene torch, flexshaft, anvil, table clamp, pickle pot, buffing wheels... the works), and therefore have not been able to do any serious metalwork. I MAY have access to one in a little more than a month because I'm going back to school again, but it will require talking my graduate advisor into allowing me to have extracurricular activities, and bribing/trading with the art department for the privilege of using their gas and torches. I would very much like to get back into metalsmithing, but it may take some time to work things out. I'll try to keep you all apprised of the situation. Again, note me if you're interested in a custom claw. If there's enough interest, that will help make sure I have enough practical$$reasons to justify paying the art department; I have a feeling it's going to be upwards of $350 per semester of usage (that's how much it was at my last school, and that was only because they charged me for 1 credit hour -- which was lucky because they usually charge 3 credits and make you take a class). I'm still hoping I can TA for them or show them some techniques in exchange for free usage though. Won't know until I try.

As for teaching other people how to do this... well, I did it the best way I could think of. It wasn't what I would consider safe. There's fire, explosive gases, and toxic/carcinogenic chemicals involved. Also, the buffing wheel that makes it so shiny also tends to throw the pointy end of Vincent's finger back at your face, which can make people lose an eye. Doing what I did requires expensive, heavy machinery, metalsmith/jewelrysmith training, and good safety gear. I can't teach you how to do that without being there in person. You'll need to talk to schools or people in your community about it. Go into some custom/art jewelry shops -- or google for metalsmiths in your area and message them -- and ask if they know anyone you could apprentice with.

As for making one cheaply or quickly, again, I can't help. I used metal, and it took alot of time and required the use of expensive tools and machinery. I have zero experience with craft plastics or foams or fiberglass or any of that stuff. However, I've seen some videos on youtube of people putting together some decent claws using those materials. Those would be the people to ask :)

If you want to use it as a reference or print it out and hang it up on your wall or post it up elsewhere, that's perfectly fine. As long as you don't take credit for making the original, I don't mind helping other artists or getting a little free advertising ^_^
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Given 2009-01-28
Vincent Valentine's Claw by ~Arienne-Keith. The suggester wrote, "This is the most EPICALLY COOL piece of fanart I have set eyes on in forever, it's wearable and beautiful and allows for real life anatomy!" A year in the making and made of solid 24 gauge and 20 gauge brass. There is a link to a video in ~arienne-keith's artist comments if you want to see Vincent's Claw in action. ( Suggested by Phyrbyrd and Featured by Kitten-of-Woe )
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LuriontheFox Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
This is amazing. Awesome detail and craftsmanship. I would easily drop 750 for one.
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks! I'll keep you in mind then when I get a torch and can make these again :)
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TiFFerzZehNiNjA Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013
If I gave you measurements and id pay you can you make one for me ):?
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I wish I could, but for the past five years I haven't been able to escape the economic suck-hole. I made this one using equipment at my school's jewelry lab when I was getting my undergraduate degree. Ever since then, I've had no way to save up for an acetylene torch, anvil, clamps, buffing machines, flexshaft, etc... and no place to put them, since apartments and grandparents' storage rooms aren't places where I can set up a workshop.

I'll be finishing grad school either spring or summer of next year... if I get one of those mythical 9-to-5 jobs that pays enough for me to get a workshop with the necessary equipment, I'll be able to make more claws and will look through all the DA messages/comments I've gotten over the past several years and contact you about fitting (pricing for a custom fit would be in the $650-$750 range). And I have ideas about how to make the arm-piece fit better. But that job & workshop thing is a really big if.


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Astral-Muffin Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Holy Mother of God that looks perfect!! I thought it was a 3d model and came to check it out :P
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:D Thanks!
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darktoguro Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2013
this is just amazing!
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks ^_^
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newtypeFERN Featured By Owner May 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice! :D
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner May 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks!
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DryadStudios Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
Happy Valentine's Day! This piece is featured here!
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Awesome, thanks!
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Valkera17 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Student Artist
i absolutely love it. in my opinion that's how his claw should be made. by the way was the brass really hard to work with? and is the buyer gonna post a pic of his cosplay with the claw? also have you ever thought about trying to do the feet as well? just curious. once again the claw is just freaking awesome
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks! The cosplayer never paid me. So I tried having someone at a con model it for me in the hopes of selling it to someone else, and the pinky piece fell off his hand because it wasn't designed for him. We checked EVERYWHERE at this small con, and checked the lost-and-found several times. Whoever came across it stole it. So now I've got an incomplete claw, and no way to make a replacement because I don't have a studio ;_; I want a studio real bad
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Valkera17 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Student Artist
awww that really sucks>.< i really hope you get a studio someday because you really have a talent/patients when working with different metals. maybe a friend or teacher or someone might have a studio you could at? just a thought/idea
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Nah, my friends are in worse financial shape than I am. Right now I'm in grad school working 60 hrs a week so I wouldn't be able to even if I did find someone with a studio. Once I graduate (which should be in about a year and a half hopefully) I'll try to look for something in AZ, once I've secured food and a roof over my head and life-sustaining heart meds for my beloved and all that good stuff. As long as we're surviving, I'm pretty determined to get back to metalwork. Wanna learn steelworking too :D
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Valkera17 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013  Student Artist
yeah i wanted to get into vet tech but the community college only had one class for it and it was really complicated then i took some kind of food sanitary class which kind of sucked and was much harder so that didn't really go over well. not really sure what i want to do now so I'm still trying to figure that out. as for your beloved are they having like heart problems or health issues? i do like AZ but it's just to hot in the summertime. steelwork sounds like fun as well^^
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
He has congestive heart failure -- got sick literally in his last term of college. They think it was a virus that munched on his heart. His heart is doing better but he still needs daily meds.

School is a tricky choice -- I'd only recommend college if you get a scholarship. Otherwise, the debt is too great a risk. Higher education has become almost entirely valueless in the job market. I found this out the hard way when I spent 3 years looking for jobs with my B.S. in Chemistry and they kept asking me, "do you have any experience?" Every time I called to find out why I didn't get the job or didn't even get in for an interview, it was always because there were 10-20 people ahead of me who had experience. The only reason I'm still in grad school is because the TA work actually pays me a stipend, which is around $200-300 more than I used to make in retail.
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Valkera17 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Student Artist
that is good that he is doing better now. hopefully his good health will continue^^

as for college i just don't have enough for that right now but i doubt i would do a four year college anyway. i might take more classes in community college but not sure what i want to do yet. but i would like to do is try and help find lost animals in my area and get them back to their families. i always feel bad for animals that are out in the cold. for a side project i thought about building like a small/medium house and put in like a small heater and some food/water. for future jobs i would like to do something that involves animals or helping animals in some way
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
mmm, if you don't mind biology you could train to be a vet tech or something (vet tech lets you take care of the critters but you don't have to worry about the management stuff of opening your own vet practice; you'd just work for a vet). It's easy to get experience in that because animal shelters are more than happy to have volunteers come in and help.
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feathersfate Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
wow, you're awesome!!!! OoO
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks! :D
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xXGoldenPheonixXx Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
how did you make it!!!
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
metal, hammers, fire... :)
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xXGoldenPheonixXx Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
wow i want to make so bad
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
and I'd love to make more of them. Too bad metalsmithing equipment is so expensive :/
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xXGoldenPheonixXx Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yeah that is true
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Shinzerai Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
You sir are a true genius. Vincent was in my party for most of the game, and I rarely switched him out because he was awesome.
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks!
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henry1112 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2012
let me know when you can make them again!!!! it...... is....... AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks :D will do!
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WolfHart55 Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2012
How much would a commission for this run? im thinking about going as Vincent to a con in a year from now in fact it just ended today xD
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I no longer have the means to make them (I used my school's jewelry lab at the time). I'd need an acetylene torch, anvil, flexshaft, and such. If I ever do get the means to do that though, it'd be $600 plus shipping and it takes about 3 months to make (possibly longer with shipping pieces back and forth for fittings). Thanks for the interest though. I promise if I ever have enough money to set up a workshop, I'll start contacting people who've messaged or commented that they were interested and let all of you know.
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TheClawofdoom Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
No Problem
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TheClawofdoom Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
what a great claw on my favourites!
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks!
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ScreamingFrost Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Do you do commishes on these???
i got a friend who really want to cosplay vincent and im helping her looking for a claw :33
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I would love to do commissions but sadly I am lacking access to some very expensive equipment right now (have been for a few years and probably will for a few more years) ;_; I made this back when I was in a college art class and had access to the school's big expensive equipment.
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ScreamingFrost Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
ooooh, well thats understandable. :3
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askalon6789 Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2012  Student General Artist
That is amazing. Let me know if you could make me one :D
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd love to make and sell them but don't have access to a jewelry lab with the necessary equipment anymore :/ Hopefully I'll get to where I can do that within the next few years. Thanks though!
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ShiroSanSamaChan Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
O_O wow
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Matdredalia Featured By Owner May 31, 2012  Student General Artist
I'm fairly certain that everyone else has said anything I could say and so, so much more. But I just had to say: Wow. You are the goddess of all goddesses, and a total badass to boot. Putting up with explosions and toxic chemicals in the name of art, hellz yeah! <3
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
lol thx! :D
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Matdredalia Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012  Student General Artist
You're most welcome. I've been showing this off to everyone I know because it's just so incredible, and you did such an amazing job that pretty much everyone in my world (gaming family, gaming friends, gaming acquaintances) immediately recognizes what it is and is in awe of you.
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
aww that's so flattering! Thx :)
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Sysfair Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
This is great work, truly skilled and dedicated you are, well done :J
Don't suppose you have amde others by chance? :)
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner May 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks -- no, haven't been able to make anything for a long time now. I made those in the university jewelry lab, and once I graduated into the jobless masses, I couldn't afford to get the necessary equipment for my own workshop. But I do still have the original claw, missing one piece (it was dropped at a con and someone stole it -- we scoured the small con area and it was never turned in to lost&found). It's available for $250 + shipping.
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SilverSongAlchemist Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You MADE that???? That is incredible. So much careful detail. I am very impressed my friend. To start on something like that and finish. You must feel like a god.
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Arienne-Keith Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks!
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